Monday, 30 June 2008
MCC's StampMart closes
According to a message I received from the MCC, there were sufficient buyers but not enough sellers. Whatever the case, the site never got much beyond listings of QE II material.
I did make some purchases through the site and I was satisfied with them, but lately there was nothing that I was interested in.
In a way it is too bad, because the goal was to have a site friendly to stamp collectors that would keep out the fraud and the garbage you sometimes see on eBay. In the end, though, I guess eBay just proved too formidable.
--Larry
Friday, 27 June 2008
Links to Postings 001 - 200
Shame about this one, a flashing Machin gif image that unfortuately did not work on this site Changing Face of A Machin
Saturday, 21 June 2008
Wilding High Values
This sheet with 2 x values of £1 and 2 x 50p was printed by Enschedé in lithography / Intaglio on OFNP with PVAl gum. Just my opinion but this adds a little spice to any collection. It is also better than some of the special issue miniature sheets that the Royal Mail are churning out like wallpaper in a bid to part collectors from their hard earned .

The Pre decimals were first printed in 1955 (recess) by Waterlow & Sons and a reprint was issued in 1958 by De La Rue. The Pre Decimal stamps had values quite different to the miniature sheet stamps.
They also had a St Edwards crown watermark. A third printing in 1959 by De La rue had a multiple crown watermark and again a fourth & fifth printing in 1963 and 1968 (1963 also multiple crown ) by Bradbury & Wilkinson. And to make things more difficult a change of paper in 68 with no watermark.
The £1 stamps in red and blue respectivly were originally pre decimal 5/- and 10/-. The Brown 50p and black 50p were originally 2/6 and £1 values
Sorting the original pre decimal high value castle stamps can be quite a daunting task, but a tip is to sort the St Edwards crown first, these are one of two either Waterlow or De La Rue. Multiple crown are are either De La Rue or Bradbury. Those without a watermark are also Bradbury.
There are several characteristics to seperate these further, ie: paper , perforations and dated postmarks on used copies.
Posted by Roy
Tuesday, 17 June 2008
Concise, not so Concise
With my move to Spain, although I am one hour ahead (time wise) from Britain I am perhaps a few months behind on reading my incoming mail. I have this sent over every few months from a forwarding address in the UK.
One packet in particular which arrived last week was the February edition of the ABPS news which is the official magazine of the Association of British Philatelic Societies. In it I was delighted to read a shortened version of a paper. The 40th Anniversary of the Machin Definitive Issue TonyWalker.
Below: just 2 of the pages scanned from the ABPS magazine.

Without going into great detail, it is a brief summary of the design process culminating in the issue and also mentions The RCA exibition and the book written by Douglas Muir.
In one section which took my attention the report states: " I looked at the SG Collect British Stamps catalogue for 2007 to try and get an idea of the extent of the decimal definitives issues, bearing in mind I have so far refered only to the short lived pre-decimal stamps. ( 5 pages)
SG list 84 basic stamps with phosphor bands, plus 70 on phosphorised paper (All Over Phosphor ), some 40 lithographed issues and around a further 90 in with elliptical perforations introduced in 1993. In their Concise catalogue (2007) they record 66 diferent values in their list of 213 basic individual stamps. There are also several pages showing examples of the 104 booklet panes booklet panes available,"
Enter our one and only Larry Rosenblum
Continued from above :
"which Larry Rosenblum from the USA maintains is a major over simplication, and suggests the number is well over 200. And so it goes on. If one was to use one of the specialist Machin catalogues for the reference you could probably add a zero at the end of all those figures ! "
Well pointed out Larry.
There are a further 5 pages of information in the artical which describe the Cambridge Colour Trials in detail with several quality phographs. A blow up of one is below. This is a picture of the final essay of the 4d sepia with the value tablet on the right.
If you would like to subscribe the address is:
6 Nuuery Drive,
Thetford,
Suffolk
IP24 3EN,
UNITED KINGDOM.
Visiit their web site http://www.ukphilately.org.uk/
Posted by Roy
Monday, 16 June 2008
Connoisseur Chapters now available on their website
The time has come. Six Machin chapters (plus one covering pictorial regionals) have now been posted on the website at www.connoisseurcatalog.net. And, for now, they are free!
I haven't had a chance to review them myself, so I'll post comments later. I did want to let everyone know.
--Larry
Saturday, 14 June 2008
The Changing Face of A Machin
I am not sure if this image will load to this site, but I will have a go.

Sorry it does not seem to want to work, shame really, but if anyone wants a working copy I can e mail it to you as a attachment direct, just leave your e mail address and details in the comments / reply box.
Roy
Now We Are Cooking
Issued on 1st December 1969 the booklet printed by Harrisons on OCP/PVA contained four panes of 15 stamps, the stamps have head type B (bust shaded at base). Of interest is the fact that two different types of booklet exist, a stapled and a stitched seam version (above).
The value of the stamps that it contains were at the time of issue used to pre pay the minimum first class (5d deep blue) and second class (4d vermilion) inland letter rate. The se-tenant pane allowed the user to make up the 4d second class with a 1d stamp in order to send an inland letter by first class.
Pane 1 (below) contains 15 x 5d, with 2 phosphor bars, the stub describing a method for cream of potato soup.

Pane 2 (below) containing 15 x 4d, with centre bar, the stub describing a recipe for Baked Stuffed Cucumber
Pane 3 (below) contained 15 x 4d centre band and a method for braised lamb

Pane 4 ( below) se-tenant, had 6 x1d, 3 x4d left bars, 3 x 4d right bars and 3 x 5d 2 bars.

Several error booklets are known with certain panes having missing phosphor bars, another with uncoated paper or broad or narrow phosphor bars. Panes are also known from the stapled booklet (which I think was sent out to potential advertisers ) with the stamps missing or overprinted SPECIMEN. These booklets ( as are individual stamps from them) are considered to be very desirable to collectors of specialised material and fetch good market premiums.
It is said when collecting this type of material. "It is advisable to purchase them with good or average perforations". Unfortunately, due to the method used when guillotining the finished product many booklets contain panes with poor perforations either cut top or bottom.
Posted by Roy
Wednesday, 11 June 2008
Indefinite Rate Stamps for Fun or Profit?
Many philatelists do say they do not collect stamps for investment, yet over the years it is evident through dealers prices that certain stamps do increase in value, some more than others. Indefinate Rate Stamps are just one example, that is if one hangs on to them long enough. It is obvious that these must increse in value with every postage rate rise, which is normally 1 or 2 pence during April every year.
N V I s ( None Value Indicated ), Indefinate Rate Stamps, Forever Stamps, or what ever you want to call them were fisrt introduced in Britain in the late 1980s. These originally consisted of booklets of 10 printed by Harrison & sons in Photogravure and booklets of 4 printed by Walsall in Litho.
New colours were adopted for these booklets, the stamp colours said "to resemble the 1d black and 2d blue, 1st class stamps (black) and 2nd class (light blue)". Both were released to the general public via post offices and retail outlet shops by the Royal Mail on 22nd August 1989. They were also released later on 19th September 1989 in booklets of 10 printed in litho by The House of Questa
The first NVI stamps at the time of issue had a decimal value (postage rate) of 14p (light blue) 2nd class and 19p (black) covering first class. I have been informed that "these colours ( a change from dark blue and Red respectively) were introduced to get the pubic used to the colours in preperation for the double headed stamps which were to be issued during the following year for 150th anniversary of the 1d black (1840 - 1990)".
However thats another story for another time, so back to my exersise. What I was most interested to see was if these were ( have been ) a good investment over the past 20 years. Most of the booklets in my collection were purchased at face value during the time of issue and dumped into albums to be sorted. Hence the mess I mentioned earlier.
After the initial tidy up, my first calculation was to compare them with todays basic inland rates for which they are still valid for postage. Todays basic rates (2008) are 27p for 2nd class and 36p for 1st class. This gives single stamps purchased from this era at face a base profit margin of 13p for 2nd class and 17p for 1st class, that is if I or anyone wished to to use them for postage.
The table below shows what each individual booklet cost at the time of issue, the value in brackets now in 2008 if used for postage and lastly a main dealers average catalogue or selling prices today.
There were several more issues during the the following next few months, If you were lucky enough to pick up these booklets with a blind hole, missing phosphor or low OBA, then these are in great demand by booklet specialists and carry a premium over and above the prices listed below. Booklets with covers printed by Walsall which contain stamps printed by Harrisons also fetch an extra premium.
It should be noted from the statement above that specialist catalogue prices can vary as to the rarity of the booklet cover, make up, perforations and so on. So in order to make this exersise as simple as possible am only going to list a few of the lowest or basic prices.
This is the Original cost or face value of the stamps in August 1989
1st class (single) 19p
2nd class (single) 14p
Booklet of 4 x 1st class 76p
Booklet of 10 x 1st class 1.90p
Booklet of 4 x 2nd class 56p
Booklet of 10 x 2nd class 1.40p
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What the stamps are worth today face value
singles may be cut or Imperf top or bottom
todays value base profit on original purchase in brackets
1st class (single) 36p (17p)
2nd class (single) 27p (13p)
Booklet of 4 x 1st class £1.44p (68p)
Booklet of 10 x 1st class £3.60p (1.70p)
Booklet of 4 x 2nd class £1.08p (52p)
Booklet of 10 x 2nd class £2.70p (1.30p)
Current Dealer or catalogue prices 2007
todays catalogue value base profit on original purchase in brackets
1st class (single) 1.20p (£1.01p)
2nd class (single) 45p (31p)
imperf top or bottom + right or left
1st class (single) 2.50p (£2.21p)
2nd class (single) 1.50p (£1.36p)
Booklet of 4 x 1st class 4.50p (£3.74p)
Blind at base 8.50p (£7.74p)
Booklet of 10 x 1st class 7.50p (£5.60p)
Booklet of 4 x 2nd class 4.00p (£3.54p)
Blind at base 7.25p (£6.69p)
Booklet of 10 x 2nd class 6.00p (£4.60p)
Comparing the prices above to the exisiting catalogue prices in 2004 these booklets have risen roughly 25p a year each ( which is basicly the line of inflation)
This figure amounts to about £1.00 per booklet over the period of 4 years. What will they be worth roughly in another 20 years time? Using the calculations or rates in figures (not percentages),just add onother £5 to the figures per booklet this will give you the total. (see below an example)
Todays Catalogue Value Base Profit on Original Purchase
IE: Booklet of 10 x 2nd class (2008) 6.00p (£4.60p)
(2028)
Booklet of 10 x 2nd class + £5.00 11.00p (£9.60p)
Does this indicate that a basic first class stamp will cost 52p and a basic second class stamp 39p in 2028? Who will be on the throne? Chas or Wills? Will we still have postage stamps in 2028 or dreaded postage labels?
Assuming we do still have postage stamps, 2p per year to each rate is more of a realistic rise which with this figure give a rise a basic first sevice costing in the region of 76p and a basic second class sevice 67p.
Or then again if we get back to reality by this time (2028) The pound sterling will be worthless and Britain will most surely have adopted the Euro by then. The Eurocrats will demand that we have one overall President and if we do have postage
stamps they may well be general European Stamps with a presidents head ( not the monarchs) in the corner.
A dreaded thought just hit me, the NVI stamps may even be worthless as postage (as were pre decimal stamps).Catalogue prices may drop like stones from heaven. And if they do drop it makes this just another pointless exersise.
Well we did say we collect stamps for fun , not profit. Why worry? We may all be wearing wooden overcoats by then. Whatever the future holds, my NVI stamps are now sort of tidy after 20 years and I have had fun writing about them. I have also given you food for thought, if not, kept you amused or just plain old entertained.
As a last note I notice that we have had a few comments left. May I thank those who responded to the request. Robert, if you would like to post on this site please email my self or Larry we would love to have you on board.
Roy
